Comments on: Need a logo? Go to Design Outpost http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/ Chronicles of people and ideas to inspire and achieve freedom from a 9 to 5 job Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:05:16 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: GrafxExtreme.com http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/comment-page-1/#comment-27296 GrafxExtreme.com Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:25:55 +0000 http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/#comment-27296 As a graphic designer I can appreciate how the client may enjoy watching the evolement of their project. The business model reminds me of an HGTV show where three designers must compete on a project and give their ideas prior to getting the job. Sounds good in theory, but having clients who were trying to play one graphic designer off the other I find that the real loser is the client. They forget they want the graphics and become too involved in getting the graphic designer to do more than what they're willing to pay for. Personally, I don't compete at that level. Most of my clients are by word of mouth. I find that clients who want cheap usually take more time and effort than those who are willing to pay for quality. Just makes more sense to attract clients who appreciate quality and are willing to pay for it. GrafxExtreme.com As a graphic designer I can appreciate how the client may enjoy watching the evolement of their project. The business model reminds me of an HGTV show where three designers must compete on a project and give their ideas prior to getting the job.

Sounds good in theory, but having clients who were trying to play one graphic designer off the other I find that the real loser is the client. They forget they want the graphics and become too involved in getting the graphic designer to do more than what they’re willing to pay for.

Personally, I don’t compete at that level. Most of my clients are by word of mouth. I find that clients who want cheap usually take more time and effort than those who are willing to pay for quality. Just makes more sense to attract clients who appreciate quality and are willing to pay for it.

GrafxExtreme.com

]]> By: Dan http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/comment-page-1/#comment-3110 Dan Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:14:48 +0000 http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/#comment-3110 I just came across your blog in a google search for 'Design Outpost'-- as a professional graphic designer, I am interested in what the popular response is to Design Outpost's business model and came across your comments. I am glad you find the creative process interesting to watch, and that designoutpost.com gave you some insight into how this works-- for this, I suppose the site is useful. Understand, however, that while this 'bake off' approach is great for clients (i.e., lots of people do work, only winning designer gets paid), it's terrible for designers and unfortunate - misguided, really- that designers are willing to work in this format. One would never ask a group of architects to draft competing plans for one's house and only pay the winning designer. Somehow, graphic design is held in low enough esteem (among both clients and designers), though, that this approach exists for web sites, logos, etc. I don't blame businesses for taking advantage of this system as it exists, but self-respecting designers should never, ever agree to work under this sort of arrangement. I just came across your blog in a google search for ‘Design Outpost’– as a professional graphic designer, I am interested in what the popular response is to Design Outpost’s business model and came across your comments. I am glad you find the creative process interesting to watch, and that designoutpost.com gave you some insight into how this works– for this, I suppose the site is useful. Understand, however, that while this ‘bake off’ approach is great for clients (i.e., lots of people do work, only winning designer gets paid), it’s terrible for designers and unfortunate – misguided, really- that designers are willing to work in this format. One would never ask a group of architects to draft competing plans for one’s house and only pay the winning designer. Somehow, graphic design is held in low enough esteem (among both clients and designers), though, that this approach exists for web sites, logos, etc. I don’t blame businesses for taking advantage of this system as it exists, but self-respecting designers should never, ever agree to work under this sort of arrangement.

]]> By: :) http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/comment-page-1/#comment-78 :) Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:13:21 +0000 http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/#comment-78 Dawg! Dude! Keep on writing. I will be reading. I work 6:00 - 2:30 myself. So I know exactly what you are talking about. I have started an ISV. I pray it gets traction. I hold in my hand my first paycheck from online sales. It is for a whopping $31. Well, it's a start I guess. ;) Best of luck to you! Dawg! Dude! Keep on writing. I will be reading. I work 6:00 – 2:30 myself. So I know exactly what you are talking about. I have started an ISV. I pray it gets traction. I hold in my hand my first paycheck from online sales. It is for a whopping $31. Well, it’s a start I guess. ;)

Best of luck to you!

]]> By: Eric http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Eric Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:52:22 +0000 http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/#comment-68 I came across this during my once-or-twice-a-week blogs/forums reading time, at the <a href="http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?joel" rel="nofollow">Joel On Software</a> forums. I came across this during my once-or-twice-a-week blogs/forums reading time, at the Joel On Software forums.

]]> By: James http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/comment-page-1/#comment-62 James Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:33:30 +0000 http://www.freefrom9to5.com/2005/04/28/great-graphic-design-site/#comment-62 Wow, excellent website. Exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. How did you hear of it? Wow, excellent website. Exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

How did you hear of it?

]]>